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Post by jkh9228 on Mar 3, 2011 8:49:30 GMT -5
just starting out planning on running borgers friday night running 4 bilsteins and 3 650's and 950 carlise rr just wondered a starting point for springs and wheel weights will be right around the 775 weight with no lead in car also wondered what rear gear will put me close and how much air pressure in the tires is a good starting point again just starting out just looking for a ball park place to start thanks in advance
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Post by matt9779 on Mar 3, 2011 11:08:45 GMT -5
Gear 64, Tire Pressure: LF and RF 6-8 LBS, LR 7-10 LBS, RR 14-17 LBS (Since we do not have a RR tire pressure rule this year). I cant help you out on springs because I have tried many different combinations and it is all based on how the driver feels.
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Post by slinger7 on Mar 3, 2011 14:12:48 GMT -5
I really you need to put an 8.50 on the left rear not a 6.50
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Post by spacedragon on Mar 3, 2011 16:33:03 GMT -5
I found this under slingshot racing on the main page. Maybe you can contact Paul at slingerware house.
Slingerwarehouse is offering any Slingshot team free scaling and setup at Slingerwarehouse headquarters in Lebanon, PA Sundays from Feb 13 to May 8. Call to schedule an appointment at 717-821-6830
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Post by slingster on Mar 4, 2011 6:38:41 GMT -5
I really you need to put an 8.50 on the left rear not a 6.50 He's running a carlisle 9.50 on the RR not a Duro though. We actually have been running a 6.50 with a duro RR and have liked that setup. I have been contemplating trying the 9.50 carlisle on the LR though since thats what most run. I feel like as long as the setup is close at Borgers a fresh engine is what you need to keep it fast.
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Post by jkh9228 on Mar 4, 2011 10:36:20 GMT -5
set frame hight and started scaling last night the only way to stay under the 120 lf max wheel weight rule is to have about 40lb of lr weight in car total weight of car in 771 with 2 gal of fuel have 4 bilsteins and 80lb rs springs and 60lb ls springs seems like this would be really tight setup but thats the only way i can get lf weight under rule and any suggestions thanks in advance
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Post by slinger7 on Mar 5, 2011 8:43:43 GMT -5
Do you have a 2011 rule book if you do there is a basic set-up in the book and it's only calling for 15lbs of rear axle wt. on either side and it's not showing any maximum wt. rule.
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Post by jkh9228 on Mar 5, 2011 11:23:14 GMT -5
this came right from the 2011 rule book on se website on page 3 WEIGHT minimum car weight after race with driver must be 775. All added weight must be bolted to weight tabs and cannot extend past thingypit. 120lb. max LF wheel weight.
to me that means the left front after race can only weigh 120lb in order to do this the split in the rear weights is about 50-60 lr weight unless there is a miss print in the rule book guess i should just call there maybe unless someone aready did let me know thank you
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Post by ron12 on Mar 5, 2011 12:17:19 GMT -5
I have never heard anybody mention of a max wheel weight. There has been a rule that you can only add up to 30 Lbs in the front end of the car. I would say that this is a miss print. 120 lb lf weight doesn't seem like enough to me but i have never scaled my cars unless for total weight.
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Post by flatcreek on Mar 6, 2011 0:26:33 GMT -5
If that is a rule and from the looks of page 3 it is, it's stupid and unfair. There are a lot of guys winning races that run more LF weight than that especially on the short tracks like Borgers. There are also guys that run good with more RF weight. Seems to me this rule may hurt certain tracks or drivers a lot more than others. We never scaled our car but it seems to me we would push like a dump truck with only 120# LF weight and what are we suppose to do at the track. (scale our car every time we twist a collar, most of us don't scale them at all)and what if the car gets banged around in the race. I certainly hope it is a misprint, but something told me that no airpresure rule wasn't going to be free. I don't think Tobias wants these cars to handle.
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Post by slinger7 on Mar 6, 2011 8:13:15 GMT -5
I just looked at the rules for 2011 and I don't see any rule about the 30lbs and the 120lb rule I believe means you can't add more than that to the left front if your not call Mike at SE and i'm sure he will clarify it for you.
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Post by flatcreek on Mar 6, 2011 9:57:19 GMT -5
"(Weight: Minimum car weight after race with driver must be 775.All added weight must be bolted to weight tabs and cannot extend past thingypit.120 lb. max. LF wheel weight.)"
From the rule book. I copied and pasted it, I don't know where thingypit came from, but I think we all know what it means and guess that's the new name for it.
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Post by slinger7 on Mar 6, 2011 10:17:52 GMT -5
Are you sure your scaling it right ? Your left front wt. is the difference between both sides. Example:L.F. 140 R.F. 80 = 60lbs L.F.
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Post by flatcreek on Mar 6, 2011 11:27:46 GMT -5
We don't scale our car, but I was assuming LF weight means the weight on the left front. Doing it that way you could probably have 200 or more pounds on the left front. Somehow I don't think that is what SE had in mind.
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Post by slinger7 on Mar 6, 2011 12:51:59 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure they mean you can't add more than 120 lbs. to the left front.I have our car set to the frame hts. SE recommends and I have more than 120 lbs on left front and I talked to a friend that has the same thing.I will check with SE tomorrow cause if that is true I will have to figure out how to change it.I will post there reply.
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